People in different cakrAs have different desires and motives.
Often they project their desires and motives onto the people they meet.
If the other person is of the same cakra, they understand each other. If they are in different cakrAs they misunderstand each other.
If a person at 4th cakra helps someone out of a feeling of love, then some one at the 1st cakra might wonder what’s in it for the other guy.
This will lead to a crossed transaction.
When lower cakra people see kundA dEvI practicing her austere life they think that is because she has no money and offer to buy her clothes and things and offer material help. They bless her that she might get married at least in her next birth. She finds it hilarious.
While she does accept help with respect to spreading her guruji’s knowledge, she does not like to accept anything for her personal use.
It is my present thinking that though she is a gnyaani, she has decided to operate out of the 5th cakra or the guru cakra at least when she deals with people who need knowledge.
It is my thinking that since the 6th cakra is the avtaar cakra, ie the descent cakra – not incarnation as is badly translated, kRSNa chose to operate out of 6th or aagnyaa cakra when he did dharma samsthApana.
My son’s undertanding is that a brahmagnyaani who is one with the brahman at the 7th cakra, descends into the 6th cakra at the request of suffering good people.
In the bhagavad gIta you see kRSNa talking sometimes from the 7th cakra when he says “I” and sometimes from the 6th cakra, when he refers to the dEhin, Atman, paramAtman, brahman etc.
He himself refers to the fact that he was yOgastha when teaching the bhagavad gIta at the end of the mahAbhArata when arjuna wants a repetition.
I think that where a brahmagnyaani decides the cakra he wishes to interact from, a struggling aspirant gets pushed up and down by interactions with others and events.
In the rAmAyaNa war lakSmaNa suddenly remembers who he is, elevates himself and fights easily and fiercely killing many enemies and losing all fatigue.
rAma ‘makes himself angry’ at the samudra, when he is not allowed to build the bridge.
What does all this mean for us?
Identify the cakrAs of different people and you can know where their assessments and advice is coming from. Then you can choose whether to trust it or let it go. You need not have crossed transactions.
Take the advice of someone who is advising you from the cakra you want to be at.
At some point you can only consult kRSNa and no one else, because everyone will drag you down.
If you are a struggling aspirant, then try associating with those who have stationed themselves at least at the next higher cakra.
What do you really desire at this time?
security and stuff
family and friends
achievement and fame
love for all
ideas and understanding